Earlier this evening, Rolling Stone published a bizarre, 11,000-word article detailing occasional Friends extra Sean Penn’s seven-hour encounter with the then-at-large drug lord El Chapo. And of course the two discuss (who else but) Donald Trump.

In Sean Penn’s incredibly rambling diary entry, the mention of everyone’s favorite fascist dictator-to-be is brief but wonderfully telling:

[Guzmán] is entirely unapologetic. Against the challenges of doing business in such a clandestine industry he has ––built an empire. I am reminded of press accounts alleging a hundred-million-dollar bounty the man across from me is said to have put on Donald Trump’s life. I mention Trump. El Chapo smiles, ironically saying, “Ah! Mi amigo!” His unguarded will to speak freely, his comfort with his station in life and ownership of extraordinary justifications, conjure Tony Montana in Oliver Stone’s Scarface.

We have two possible interpretations here.

1) El Chapo really was being ironic and using the phrase to convey a deep-seated hatred for the man, or—

2) El Chapo sees him as an understandable equal and peer.

For his part, Donald Trump had this to say about Mexico’s must notorious drug cartel earlier this evening:

Game recognize game.

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