President Obama used his WTF podcast interview with comedian Marc Maron to press on gun safety and racism in America, saying “it’s not enough just to feel bad” about the country’s mass shooting problem.

The episode, which was released this morning, was taped Friday as the cops were still combing through the wreckage of the Charleston church shooting. Obama reiterated several points he made in a speech Thursday about how America’s gun laws facilitated the attack.

“I think part of the point that I wanted to make was that it’s not enough just to feel bad. There are actions that could be taken to make events like this less likely. And one of those actions we could take would be to enhance some basic, common sense gun safety laws—that by the way, the majority of gun owners support,” Obama said. “This is unique to our country. There’s no other advanced nation on earth that tolerates multiple shootings on a regular basis and considers it normal. And to some degree that’s what’s happened in this country—it’s become something that we expect.”

Part of that problem is the power the NRA has among legislators, Obama said.

“Unfortunately, the grip of the NRA on Congress is extremely strong. I don’t foresee any legislative action being taken in this Congress.”

The president also talked about the state of racism during the hour-long interview, telling Maron racism exists regardless of whether people are outwardly discriminatory.

“The legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, discrimination in almost every institution of our lives, you know, that casts a long shadow, and that’s still part of our DNA that’s passed on. We are not cured of it. Racism, we are not cured of it. And it’s not just a matter of it not being polite to say nigger in public,” Obama said. “That’s not the measure of whether racism still exists or not. It’s not just a matter of overt discrimination. Societies don’t, overnight, completely erase everything that happened 200 to 300 years prior.”

The garage podcast episode also involved snipers and protestors, Vanity Fair reports.

“A few days before the interview, the Secret Service started coming up, looking around the house, seeing what the perimeter was, figuring out how they can secure the house. They set up the isolated phone lines that are necessary for the president to have wherever he is. . . . They had to figure out how to do it in my garage, where [to place] the Secret Service. They had to have an archivist here recording it. They tried to put a sniper on the garage but it was too noisy. So they had to go on my neighbor’s house. They wanted everything out of the garage that was going to be in the path of the president—the boxes of books and piles of stuff that I had in here. They wanted anything that could be dangerous in the garage taken out.”

Officials tell the Times, “They did not know of another time when a sitting president had recorded an interview in someone’s garage studio.”


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