On Thursday, at the Aspen Ideas Festival, in an on-stage conversation with actress Goldie Hawn, former Disney CEO Michael Eisner postulated that the rarest kind of person is a woman who is both beautiful and funny. “From my position, the hardest artist to find is a beautiful, funny woman,” Eisner said.

“They usually—boy am I going to get in trouble, I know this goes online” (yes, hello!) “but usually, unbelievably beautiful women, you being an exception, are not funny,” he continued.

According to the Atlantic, Hawn agreed, saying that she may owe her sense of humor to having thought of herself as an “ugly duckling” when she was young.

“You didn’t think you were beautiful,” Eisner, who was the CEO of Disney from 1984 to 2005, said, helpfully. “I know women who have been told they’re beautiful, they win Miss Arkansas, they don’t ever have to get attention other than with their looks. So they don’t tell a joke.”

“In the history of the motion-picture business, the number of beautiful, really beautiful women—a Lucille Ball—that are funny, is impossible to find,” he said.

Ha ha, all right, man.

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