California Dreaming
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Califorina lesbians are so much better looking than NY lesbians.
Protests will avail you nothing, homos! Only a well-organized, thoughtful and non-hysterical ballot initiative will get gay marriage passed in California. You know, something nice and Constitutional, like what you SHOULD have done the first time around.
@SeeingI: Gay marriage actually was "passed" in California, if you mean "made legal" - last year the California Supreme Court had ruled that the state Constitution's guarantee of equal protection under the law meant that gays had the same marriage rights as straights. Prop 8 amended the constitution so that the Supreme Court's decision would be mooted. Now we're going to have to try to get a new ballot initiative passed in 2010 to change the constitution back to what it was before, which would serve to restore the rights already provided by the Supreme Court. The mistake made by rights proponents here wasn't their inability to get a pro-marriage initiative passed, then; it was their complacency back in November that the anti-marriage initiative would fail.
@Wendy_Kroy: "Passed" in the same sense that universal pre-school was "passed" in NJ: by Court diktat (despite NJ Constitutional Language that guarantees free public education for 5-18 years old children). The courts shouldn't make laws, period.
Get a positive resolution on the ballot and take yer frustrations out on the YES button.
Since the passage of Prop 8 gays and supporters have looked ridiculous, calling for tolerance at the top of their outstretched lungs.
@Goethewritesdrivel: Wow, "courts shouldn't make laws." OK, first off, courts DON'T make laws - they interpret them. Second, by interpreting laws - and especially, by interpreting the constitution - courts do end up interjecting themselves into volatile issues, but, historically, only in a way that expands human rights. Courts desegregated schools, allowed interracial marriage, gave women the right to equal pay, gave criminal defendants the right to counsel, decriminalized homosexuality (ie, Texas sodomy laws), and gave women the right to control their own bodies. They didn't do so by "diktat," but by interpreting the existing constitution in light of evolving mores.
The founding fathers created three equal branches of government to balance each other out. They were all deeply aware of the dangers of the mob - which is part of why we don't really engage in direct democracy (at the federal level, voters don't make laws; they elect others to make laws for them), and also why the courts have the ability to interpret legislation, thereby providing a brake on potential demagoguery like that arguably inherent in Prop 8.
Somebody should have tasered the old guy behind her, just for wearing plaid shorts to a protest march.
I said it once in November, and I'll say it again. Don't waste time with protests. Instead, be productive and start collecting signatures for a proposition that would legalize gay marriage.
